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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: No icon PS3 HDD CORRUPTED? :S :S Reply with quote

Okay, I did something really stupid...

I usually watch TV shows on my ps3, so I had a couple of tv shows dumped on my ps3 hard drive which is 250gb (fat one, I bought the hard drive myself and swapped it)

Anyway, so I just got my external hard drive and I backed up everything I have on pc and converted it to NTFS, so I couldn't connect it to the ps3 so I can back up the stuff I have in it, which I wanted to do.

Because I'm such a genius, I took out the ps3 hard drive out and connected it to my pc, for some reason, my pc couldn't detect my ps3 hard drive, so I thought I would take it out and insert it back again in my ps3 and back up my data 8gb at a time using my flash drive... :(

Too bad, when I started my ps3, it said that the system partition on the hard drive must be reformatted and I must reinstall the system software

Is there a way I can save my data or AT LEAST retrieve my game saves?

I'm torn and desperate for help Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: No icon Re: PS3 HDD CORRUPTED? :S :S Reply with quote

no clue.. can't be said so easily..
i am not sure if ps3 is keeping os on same partition as data.. iirc it is linux based so it may have several partitions on it..


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: No icon Re: PS3 HDD CORRUPTED? :S :S Reply with quote

I tried everything on the ps3 itself to fix it, but nothing seems to work :S

I dunno if there's a way to work around the issue on pc so I can recover the data?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: No icon Re: PS3 HDD CORRUPTED? :S :S Reply with quote

Sad you may have already read this but if not after abit of reading as i was interested as i have a ps3 this is what it all concludes too im afraid

Here is the low down, from everything I've read, tried myself, and heard about.



Sony does not have any way for you to restore an old hard drive, or run an old hard drive on a new PS3 unit.  There is no way to run your old drive on a new, refurbished machine, and apparently, Sony is in the habbit of giving people refurbished models instead of their old consoles back.

What does this mean for us?

It means that, unless you already made a backup of your data, you have lost that data.  If you already got a new machine, you are screwed.  The end.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

You cannot take the old drive, put it in an enclosure, and run it on the PS3 to copy files.  The internal drives are encoded differently per unit, and they are formatted differently when you put one in, and the USB ports do not read that format.  You cannot hook up your old drive to a pc or mac or linux, and expect to create a backup, or extract files, because it is encoded, and the backup software is encoded as well.  There is no way to trick the PS3 into running the old drive without formatting it.  Even trying the "//hold the power button down until it turns off, then hold it down until it beeps twice, and then choosing option 3//" trick does nothing, as this only works on crashed drives from the same unit, not a different unit.  You cannot ghost the drive, or create a backup utility in linux, as the encoding is still a problem.

Unless the one guy who posted that he can fix these issues on here is lying, then he might be able to extract some data, but I have found no place that actually can do this in a way that   a) doesn't cost you an arm and a leg   b) can garantee it will work in the first place   c) will not brick the system in the process.  Regardless, any new system under warranty will void that warranty by taking it to a local shop.

In short, if you already gave Sony your PS3 for repair, as I have done, and you are one of the many to get back a different refurbished model, as I did, then you are screwed, just like I am.  All your data is gone, even if you saved the drive.  Take solace that your online data, all your trophies, downloads, updates, and even Home items will still be there.  But all your music, movies (not from the PSN store), saved game files, unlocked items (that don't use trophies to unlock them), photos/pictures, and custom themes are gone.



There are 2 ways to prevent this issue.

1 - Make a backup of your data onto an external USB drive every month (or week) to make sure you have an active backup.  Please note thouhg, that several 3rd party publishers will put a copyrite on their saved game files, a DRM so to speak, that will prevent them from being transfered to the backup.  YES you can STILL lose saved game data even with a backup!

OR...

2 - If your PS3 is not under warranty, take it into a local shop.  Find a shop you trust, and be prepared to accept the fact that you are, as of this moment, already 1 inch away from losing everything anyways.  You may not be able to keep all the data.  If your PS3 is broken, but your drive is ok, put in a different drive just to be safe.  If you aren't sure, tell them you want to save the data if possible.  They can at least try to fix your PS3 for a lower cost than what Sony will charge you, and they WILL give you back your unit, not a new one.  This means that as long as they are capable, the problem isn't too serious, and they manage to fix the PS3, your old HDD will still work in it, as long as the data isn't corrupted.  If it is, there may be ways of saving it.

If your PS3 IS under warranty, suck it up, lose the few months of data you lost, and send it in for repairs.  Or pay to have a local store fix it and VOID the warranty.  Up to you.



As for me, I seem to have 3 options left.  I have an old backup I made, which might be recent enough to help me save years of data, but still lose the last few months.  If that works, I can rebuild.  If that doesn't work, then I can desperately try to see if someone can extract data from this drive, except I expect it will cost too much and will yield nothing.  My last option is to suck it up and lose my data.

Either way, I hope and pray I don't have too many "DRM" saved files, and that my backup will work.





So in short, if you have a new unit already from Sony, you CANNOT put your old drive in it, or get the data back.  IT IS GONE!  Sorry, Sony sucks.  Some ass high up in the ranks decided it was better to cater to the publishers and fight piracy at this level, than you cater to the paying customers and give them backup utilities on the pc, a way to read ps3 hdd through a USB port, or the ability to PAY them to transfer the data.  They really did tell me over the phone that they have no solution to this problem and are essentially looking the other way.  I understand the piracy thing, but this is ridiculous!

If you haven't taken it in yet, DON'T!  Take it into a local shop and have them fix it!  If they mess it up, and Sony won't fix it after that, you are still going to be out about the same amount of money, so just buy a new/refurbished one.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: No icon Re: PS3 HDD CORRUPTED? :S :S Reply with quote

carlos wrote (View Post):
Sad you may have already read this but if not after abit of reading as i was interested as i have a ps3 this is what it all concludes too im afraid

Here is the low down, from everything I've read, tried myself, and heard about.



Sony does not have any way for you to restore an old hard drive, or run an old hard drive on a new PS3 unit.  There is no way to run your old drive on a new, refurbished machine, and apparently, Sony is in the habbit of giving people refurbished models instead of their old consoles back.

What does this mean for us?

It means that, unless you already made a backup of your data, you have lost that data.  If you already got a new machine, you are screwed.  The end.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

You cannot take the old drive, put it in an enclosure, and run it on the PS3 to copy files.  The internal drives are encoded differently per unit, and they are formatted differently when you put one in, and the USB ports do not read that format.  You cannot hook up your old drive to a pc or mac or linux, and expect to create a backup, or extract files, because it is encoded, and the backup software is encoded as well.  There is no way to trick the PS3 into running the old drive without formatting it.  Even trying the "//hold the power button down until it turns off, then hold it down until it beeps twice, and then choosing option 3//" trick does nothing, as this only works on crashed drives from the same unit, not a different unit.  You cannot ghost the drive, or create a backup utility in linux, as the encoding is still a problem.

Unless the one guy who posted that he can fix these issues on here is lying, then he might be able to extract some data, but I have found no place that actually can do this in a way that   a) doesn't cost you an arm and a leg   b) can garantee it will work in the first place   c) will not brick the system in the process.  Regardless, any new system under warranty will void that warranty by taking it to a local shop.

In short, if you already gave Sony your PS3 for repair, as I have done, and you are one of the many to get back a different refurbished model, as I did, then you are screwed, just like I am.  All your data is gone, even if you saved the drive.  Take solace that your online data, all your trophies, downloads, updates, and even Home items will still be there.  But all your music, movies (not from the PSN store), saved game files, unlocked items (that don't use trophies to unlock them), photos/pictures, and custom themes are gone.



There are 2 ways to prevent this issue.

1 - Make a backup of your data onto an external USB drive every month (or week) to make sure you have an active backup.  Please note thouhg, that several 3rd party publishers will put a copyrite on their saved game files, a DRM so to speak, that will prevent them from being transfered to the backup.  YES you can STILL lose saved game data even with a backup!

OR...

2 - If your PS3 is not under warranty, take it into a local shop.  Find a shop you trust, and be prepared to accept the fact that you are, as of this moment, already 1 inch away from losing everything anyways.  You may not be able to keep all the data.  If your PS3 is broken, but your drive is ok, put in a different drive just to be safe.  If you aren't sure, tell them you want to save the data if possible.  They can at least try to fix your PS3 for a lower cost than what Sony will charge you, and they WILL give you back your unit, not a new one.  This means that as long as they are capable, the problem isn't too serious, and they manage to fix the PS3, your old HDD will still work in it, as long as the data isn't corrupted.  If it is, there may be ways of saving it.

If your PS3 IS under warranty, suck it up, lose the few months of data you lost, and send it in for repairs.  Or pay to have a local store fix it and VOID the warranty.  Up to you.



As for me, I seem to have 3 options left.  I have an old backup I made, which might be recent enough to help me save years of data, but still lose the last few months.  If that works, I can rebuild.  If that doesn't work, then I can desperately try to see if someone can extract data from this drive, except I expect it will cost too much and will yield nothing.  My last option is to suck it up and lose my data.

Either way, I hope and pray I don't have too many "DRM" saved files, and that my backup will work.





So in short, if you have a new unit already from Sony, you CANNOT put your old drive in it, or get the data back.  IT IS GONE!  Sorry, Sony sucks.  Some ass high up in the ranks decided it was better to cater to the publishers and fight piracy at this level, than you cater to the paying customers and give them backup utilities on the pc, a way to read ps3 hdd through a USB port, or the ability to PAY them to transfer the data.  They really did tell me over the phone that they have no solution to this problem and are essentially looking the other way.  I understand the piracy thing, but this is ridiculous!

If you haven't taken it in yet, DON'T!  Take it into a local shop and have them fix it!  If they mess it up, and Sony won't fix it after that, you are still going to be out about the same amount of money, so just buy a new/refurbished one.


That doesn't sound good  Sad


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